One of my students brought to me yesterdey, during the Graph class, the information of a brazilian weblog who said that Web 2.0 means nothing. I started to read it and, well, that post means nothing. So I went following the links (many of them in English, if you want to follow), and found there are some people really thinking that Web 2.0 is a piece of crap.
This criticism is probably a natural reaction to all buzzwords that gravitate around the Web 2.0 concept. But it lacks in a point. Web 2.0 means what we want it to mean. If we’re worried about giving names to stuff, then they’re right. But if we’re worried about things that should rule the future IT market, then we got a point, and studying Web 2.0 is not a complete waste of time.
For me, I pretend to keep Web 2.0 alive.
March 5, 2006 at 10:03 am
Nice point…
Here in Latin America, in our side of coin, the United States is the nation that create poverty, disturb democratic nations and create a lot of dictators in many countrys. If you study american history you will understand this. Unless you want mean wherever you want about america that they always be good guys, like american television do. You can create the “mean” that american way of life is beauty and in the world doesn’t have muslins killing people for defeat his oil. It’s your right think this. I still think that Bush made with american people the same that Hitler do with his people: he lies!
Only the history (in case of web 10 years is enough)will show if web2 exist or not. The point is that the rules used to label ours days as Web2 is old and passional. I cant’t ignore the facts just because I want create a new mean for the things. Our free will of label things is normal. But the name “Web2″ is more passional than rational and Jeffrey Zeldman show this better than me.
I just hope that this kind of discussion do not create a new kind of appartheid in web. Or even in the mind. I don’t care if they are talking about a thing called “web2″ or “blablabla”, I’m just doing the web.
Be of good cheer!
March 5, 2006 at 10:53 am
Hi, Henrique
I’m really glad that you stepped by here.
First of all, I don’t know if you’re aware of, but at my About page (don’t worry, I do not look at most about pages) you could see that I study in a brazilian university. I’m a brazilian also.
Regarding your comment, I’m pretty aware about all the evil that Mr. “Dablo” does to the world. But I really did not get your point. We’re not trying to create a meaning if a guy is good or bad to the world. We’re just trying to create a jargon that concentrates what lies in the present and in the near future of IT market. It’s less grave, do you get my point?
I do agree that we don’t need an apartheid, nor in the Web, nor anywhere. But it’s not what people are doing with Web 2.0. We’re just trying to recognize standards, and how they’ll affect the near future in market. In your own words, we’re also doing the Web, but thinking about what we’re doing.
Please step by often. It’ll be a real pleasure.
Cheers
March 7, 2006 at 11:40 am
hi there, i’ve found this page through the article regarding web 2.0.
in fact, the intention of saying that web 2.0 is nothing does not mean that the concepts behind it are not valid. in fact, i believe the comment want to show that “web 2.0″ is just a cute name (and a marketing name) for things some people was not considering to do with web because they were so used to consider web just as “homepages”, “websites” that they didn’t realize all possibilities with the primary concepts that involves internet creation, such as interactivity, remote access to anything, accessibility (regarding devices for example). When someone woke up to these things, have decided to call it “web 2.0″.
But i thing “web 2.0″ is noting more than “web 1.0″ without a muzzle
best regards,
March 7, 2006 at 12:40 pm
JC, that’s the point: when you say “‘web 2.0′ is just a cute name (and a marketing name) for things some people was not considering to do with web”, you’re bringing an incredible power to Web 2.0 meaning. You’re saying, with one single word, what are the current tendencies of those who are using web application with all its feautures. This is an interesting subject of analysis. And that’s what people are doing…
Thanks for stepping by. Please do it often.
Regards
June 13, 2006 at 12:55 am
Just some bug reports:
s/yesterdey/yesterday/
When you say:
“For me, I pretend to keep Web 2.0 alive. ”
do you actually mean that? Or you do mean that you intend (and not pretend) to keep Web2.0 alive?
Nice blog! I haven’t seen it before.